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Thursday, January 26, 2012

from Lawrence, Sunday PhiloMadrid meeting: Looking for a meaning in what we do.+ news

Essays and News
Dear friends,
This Sunday we are discussing: Looking for a meaning in what we do.
In the meantime Miguel has posted for us a short essay related to the topic on his blog which you
can find here:
The search for the meaning of life
http://cielosdemarzo.blogspot.com/2012/01/search-for-meaning-of-life.html
Please let me know if you cannot access the blog so I can send you a copy of the essay.
In the meantime, my approach to the topic would be to consider whether we do actually look for a
meaning in what we do. Or whether we try to find meaning, or even justify, what we do after we have
acted for whatever reason we decided to act.
In other words, do we act first, and then try to justify our actions to place them in a context. For
example, a context of justified survival – I had to steal the loaf of bread because my children were
starving. Or maybe a context of accomplishment for self gratification – we did not invest in market
X because we did not want to expose ourselves to market fluctuations, (but in reality all the good
bargains were taken by the competition!!).
Or do we act after considering the issue and justification for acting in one way and not another?
But in this context we imply that "looking for meaning" we are looking for a moral justification for
our actions. By having to explain an action before we do it we imply, at least in our society, that
we have also considered the ethical consequences of what we do. "I have to support my family, so I
must think of the company's profits before the welfare of our clients." "There is nothing wrong in
wanting to earn more money." "I have worked for my money, so I spend it how I feel like it."
And we have to consider the ethical issues before hand (and by ethical I also mean socially accepted
attitudes) or at least pretend to consider the ethical issues, because not to do so means that we
are nothing more than automata in motion and not rational free agents. Automata do not enjoy a sense
of self achievement or self fulfilment. Nor approval from peers and other members of society. There
is no psychological or mental satisfaction if we said that, my three million euro bonus was just a
result of automatic unconscious acts which cannot be explained nor accredited to any intention or
ability on my part.
It makes more sense if we ascribed the three million euro bonus to rigorous analysis of the market
and sacrificing the family for working late into the night at the office. The element of sacrifice
and intellectual prowess gives us the bragging rights to feel good about the three million and our
enemies no ground for criticism.
We try to find meaning in what we do, because we also try to feel good about what we do. And feeling
good is the one thing we thrive to achieve in our lives, because nothing feels more good than
feeling good about ourselves (even if we don't admit it).
Have fun
Lawrence

regular messages from friends below
Meet 6:30pm
Centro Segoviano
Alburquerque, 14
28010 Madrid
914457935
Metro: Bilbao
-----------Ignacio------------
In the meantime Ignacio has reminded me to let you know about the new arrangements for the Thursday
meeting.
Thursday's Open Tertulia in English
Important Notice: From December 1st, the Tertulia will take place at O'Donnells (ex-Moore's) Irish
Pub, c/ Barceló 1 (metro Tribunal)
http://sites.google.com/site/tertuliainenglishmadrid/
----------From Luisa:
Data of language exchange,
Location: Café Comercial
Address: Glorieta de Bilbao, 7
Website location:
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=es&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=glorieta+de+Bilbao+en+Madrid&fb=1&hq=glorieta+de+Bilbao&hnear=Madrid,+España&cid=168580715753984644
Dates: on Saturday
Time: from 12:30 to 14:45
Price: 2.50 € (exchange organizing, hiring the top of the cafeteria and coffee, tea, soda, wine or
beer are included).
Luisa - email to confirm please alvarez_luisa@hotmail.com
-------------- Visits to the British Cemetry in Madrid from David Butler---
HAPPY NEW YEAR -- FELIZ AÑO NUEVO
Por el presente mensaje hago saber las fechas de las visitas comentadas, programadas para los
próximos meses : si hay alguien que quiera hacer una visita con su correspondiente grupo en
cualquier otra fecha, sírvasa avisarme para llegar a un acuerdo mutuo de fecha.
I am starting up the guided tours of the Cemetery again : if anyone wishes to make up a group
independent of the groups I set up, I will be most happy to take them round - all they need do is
state their preferred dates and we will work out a schedule.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Redacto el presente mensaje tanto en español como en inglés con el objeto de comunicaros que sigo
con el programa de visitas comentadas, sábados por la mañana, al Cementerio Británico.
Las visitas empiezan a las 11 horas en la entrada del Cementerio Británico, calle del Comandante
Fontanes 7, distrito de Carabanchel
*sábado, 11 de febrero, cuando daré las explicaciones en español
*sábado, 25 de febrero, cuando daré las explicaciones en inglés
*sábado, 10 de marzo, cuando daré las explicaciones en español.
Lo dejo a su elección cuál día acuda y no hay necesidad de avisar.
Tomen nota de nuestra página web < www.britishcemeterymadrid.com > que contiene información
de la historia del Cementerio y el mapa de su ubicación.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am writing this in both Spanish and in English to tell you that I am continuing Saturday morning
guided visits to the British Cemetery.
We meet at 11 o'clock at the Cemetery entrance in Calle del Comandante Fontanes 7 in Carabanchel
* the visit on Saturday 11 February will be in Spanish
* the visit on Saturday 25 February will be in English
* the visit on Saturday 10 March will be in Spanish.
The choice of date is left to you and there is no need to inform me in advance of the visit whether
you are coming.
Do take note of our website < www.britishcemeterymadrid.com > where you will find details of the
Cemetery's history and a map with its location.
David Butler
Short url: http://tinyurl.com/visit-british-cemetery

from Lawrence, Sunday PhiloMadrid meeting: Looking for a meaning in what we do.+ news

Thursday, January 19, 2012

from Lawrence, Sunday PhiloMadrid meeting: Being Natural + NEWS

Dear Friends,
This Sunday we are discussing: Being Natural.
Despite the unfortunate misunderstanding about the wording of a topic, we now have a trilogy of
topics that involves us as individuals. We started with the Perfect Me and then moved on to Me and
Us and now being natural –or being ourselves.
This topic will certainly lead us to issues of personality and maybe our relationships with others.
Should we, for example, suppress any part of our personality for the sake of getting on well with
those around. Or would this be just a case of acquiescing to the aggression or dominance of others?
-----
Hola, amig@s:
---Este viernes estrenamos "Ocho mujeres", una obra de suspense del francés Robert Thomas. Más
información en estos enlaces:
http://trece-gatos.blogspot.com/2012/01/estreno-de-ocho-mujeres-de-robert.html
http://www.facebook.com/events/230561920356615/
---Representamos la obra hasta el 5 de febrero, todos los viernes y sábados a las 20 h y los
domingos a las 19 h. Entrada 7 euros.
RESERVAS: reservas13gatos@gmail.com
LUGAR: LA SALA DEL MARIANO -Centro Sociocultural Mariano Muñoz - C/ Cristo de Lepanto s/n -
(Semiesquina C/ Cristo de la Vega, detrás de la Escuela Infantil)
---Metro: Almendrales --- Bus: 78, 6 --- Renfe: Doce de Octubre
También suele haber sitio para aparcar.
¡Espero veros una noche allí!
Besos. Susanne
----------------------------
----------From Luisa:
Data of language exchange,
Location: Café Comercial
Address: Glorieta de Bilbao, 7
Website location:
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=es&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=glorieta+de+Bilbao+en+Madrid&fb=1&hq=glorieta+de+Bilbao&hnear=Madrid,+España&cid=168580715753984644
Dates: on Saturday
Time: from 12:30 to 14:45
Price: 2.50 € (exchange organizing, hiring the top of the cafeteria and coffee, tea, soda, wine or
beer are included).
Luisa - email to confirm please alvarez_luisa@hotmail.com
-------------- Visits to the British Cemetry in Madrid from David Butler---
HAPPY NEW YEAR -- FELIZ AÑO NUEVO
Por el presente mensaje hago saber las fechas de las visitas comentadas, programadas para los
próximos meses : si hay alguien que quiera hacer una visita con su correspondiente grupo en
cualquier otra fecha, sírvasa avisarme para llegar a un acuerdo mutuo de fecha.
I am starting up the guided tours of the Cemetery again : if anyone wishes to make up a group
independent of the groups I set up, I will be most happy to take them round - all they need do is
state their preferred dates and we will work out a schedule.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Redacto el presente mensaje tanto en español como en inglés con el objeto de comunicaros que sigo
con el programa de visitas comentadas, sábados por la mañana, al Cementerio Británico.
Las visitas empiezan a las 11 horas en la entrada del Cementerio Británico, calle del Comandante
Fontanes 7, distrito de Carabanchel
*sábado, 11 de febrero, cuando daré las explicaciones en español
*sábado, 25 de febrero, cuando daré las explicaciones en inglés
*sábado, 10 de marzo, cuando daré las explicaciones en español.
Lo dejo a su elección cuál día acuda y no hay necesidad de avisar.
Tomen nota de nuestra página web < www.britishcemeterymadrid.com > que contiene información
de la historia del Cementerio y el mapa de su ubicación.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am writing this in both Spanish and in English to tell you that I am continuing Saturday morning
guided visits to the British Cemetery.
We meet at 11 o'clock at the Cemetery entrance in Calle del Comandante Fontanes 7 in Carabanchel
* the visit on Saturday 11 February will be in Spanish
* the visit on Saturday 25 February will be in English
* the visit on Saturday 10 March will be in Spanish.
The choice of date is left to you and there is no need to inform me in advance of the visit whether
you are coming.
Do take note of our website < www.britishcemeterymadrid.com > where you will find details of the
Cemetery's history and a map with its location.
David Butler
Short url: http://tinyurl.com/visit-british-cemetery

And finally, Ignacio and Friends, details below
Best
Lawrence

Meet 6:30pm
Centro Segoviano
Alburquerque, 14
28010 Madrid
914457935
Metro: Bilbao
-----------Ignacio------------
In the meantime Ignacio has reminded me to let you know about the new arrangements for the Thursday
meeting.
Thursday's Open Tertulia in English
Important Notice: From December 1st, the Tertulia will take place at O'Donnells (ex-Moore's) Irish
Pub, c/ Barceló 1 (metro Tribunal)
http://sites.google.com/site/tertuliainenglishmadrid/
from Lawrence, Sunday PhiloMadrid meeting: Being Natural + NEWS

Thursday, January 12, 2012

from Lawrence, Sunday PhiloMadrid meeting: Me vs Us + NEWS

Dear friends,
This Sunday we are discussing: Me vs Us.
In a way this is an extension of last week's topic: the perfect me. It was clear from our discussion
on Sunday that the "Me" theme is very interesting and makes captivating discussion. But can we
extrapolate from what we know about ourseleves to make claims about others and, espcially others in
a group? And how do we affect groups we belong to, not to mention groups we don't belong to?
What is sure is that this new topic should encompass even more issues than we can possibly
contemplate: for example us can be us as a couple, family, group, people with common interest, until
we arrive to the human race itself.
In the meantime I have the following news:
-----------From Luisa:
Data of language exchange,
Location: Café Comercial
Address: Glorieta de Bilbao, 7
Website location:
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=es&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=glorieta+de+Bilbao+en+Madrid&fb=1&hq=glorieta+de+Bilbao&hnear=Madrid,+España&cid=168580715753984644
Dates: on Saturday
Time: from 12:30 to 14:45
Price: 2.50 € (exchange organizing, hiring the top of the cafeteria and coffee, tea, soda, wine or
beer are included).
Luisa
-------------------From Carlos
Thanks Lawrence, happy 2012!
Please, tell your audience that we, at the Asociación Club del Hombre Libre, are holding two
meeting, Next Thursday 12 at 20:00 Hours, and next Saturday at same hour, at Cafe Comercial (On
Thursday on the bottom of the Cafe, ground floor, and on Saturday on the first floor), in which will
inform interested people of the 15 + cultural and social programs we have developed for
collaborators and volunteers.
Regards
Carlos
-----------------------

And finally, Ignacio and Friends, details below
Best
Lawrence

Meet 6:30pm
Centro Segoviano
Alburquerque, 14
28010 Madrid
914457935
Metro: Bilbao
-----------Ignacio------------
In the meantime Ignacio has reminded me to let you know about the new arrangements for the Thursday
meeting.
Thursday's Open Tertulia in English
Important Notice: From December 1st, the Tertulia will take place at O'Donnells (ex-Moore's) Irish
Pub, c/ Barceló 1 (metro Tribunal)
http://sites.google.com/site/tertuliainenglishmadrid/
from Lawrence, Sunday PhiloMadrid meeting: Me vs Us + NEWS

Thursday, January 05, 2012

from Lawrence, Sunday PhiloMadrid meeting: The Perfect Me

Dear Friends,
Hope you had a good holiday, only one more and were back to normal.
Just a note to remind you that we are meeting this Sunday as usual and we are discussing: The
Perfect Me. I think I'll wait to hear what you have to say on this.
Best
Lawrence
Meet 6:30pm
Centro Segoviano
Alburquerque, 14
28010 Madrid
914457935
Metro: Bilbao
-----------Ignacio------------
In the meantime Ignacio has reminded me to let you know about the new arrangements for the Thursday
meeting.
Thursday's Open Tertulia in English
Important Notice: From December 1st, the Tertulia will take place at O'Donnells (ex-Moore's) Irish
Pub, c/ Barceló 1 (metro Tribunal)
http://sites.google.com/site/tertuliainenglishmadrid/
from Lawrence, Sunday PhiloMadrid meeting: The Perfect Me

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